TANcast 116 – Michael Jackson v The Beatles
September 15th, 2010 . by Tim Babb (TANcast's #1 Host/Editor Fan)
This week, the boys suck at softball, Andy swears at work, Noah’s computer fails, Noah learns about pimpin’ and the justice system, they boys debate the “greatest artists of all time,” and finally a debate about the genre of comic book cartoons.
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VH1’s Top 100 Artists of All Time 2010
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September 17th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
The dream within in a dream reminds me of that one recent episode of “The Simpson” where Lisa gets a low grade (I think it was an F) and she said “no no this is just a dream, now I’m going to fly.” She attempts to jump off of her desk, and sadly falls to the floor.
September 17th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Thanks Chelsea! I was worried this would be the first episode that no one commented on. (PS-I wish I’d seen that Simpsons)
September 18th, 2010 at 12:44 am
To expand on the dream a little bit more, at first they were just sharp. Tim cut himself on one, and he threw it. Then it exploded. Stupid Twitter didn’t give me enough characters to mention Tim cutting himself, though. The whole thing was just really odd. And entertaining. The fries could be used as a knife, or a grenade, depending what you felt like using them for. Not something I’d actually want in Andy’s hands. Or Tim’s, for that matter.
September 19th, 2010 at 1:14 am
Beatles. That is all.
September 19th, 2010 at 2:31 am
See? I thought we’d get a TON of Beatles/MJ posts after this episode. But nothin’! Odd…I guess music is not the hot button for the TANcasties and TANnasties.
PS Michael Jackson is the greatest of all time!
September 19th, 2010 at 4:13 am
Beatles. And Elvis should be higher than eight.
Tim, I don’t understand why different voices in two unrelated animated features would bother you. Comic books, and the various forms of entertainment based on comic books, are constantly relaunching. How many people have played Batman in the movies, even movies that were supposedly sequels? How many Batman cartoon series have there been?
And “that movie” you guys keep bringing up is called Velvet Goldmine.
September 19th, 2010 at 4:54 am
@ Jenn Technically, they’re not unrelated, they’re both Batman. But in reality, I think what bothers me is that I think the guy who does Batman in the Animated series, Justice League, and even Batman Beyond does a great job.
And I’d forgot to mention on the show, but what got this concept stuck in my craw was when they did an adaptation of the Superman/Doomsday series of comics as a cartoon but they kept it in the Superman/Justice League universe that they had created. Seemed to me like they could have done the same thing with this Batman movie Noah was on about.
I just see TV and movies differently than comics. In comics you have several different story lines and “worlds” happening to the same set of characters at the same time spread throughout different books. TV doesn’t work that way. CBS doesn’t have two shoes called “2 and Half Men” with the same characters but different actors, story arcs and tones. That would be weird. And that’s how I look at this.
September 19th, 2010 at 8:23 am
The fact Sinatra didn’t make the top 100 in that list is laughable, seriously what’s going on there? Also I find Eminem’s positioning a joke, he’s biggest selling rapper of all time and he won an Oscar for the song ‘Lose Yourself’. The day Jay-Z (which the only rapping he can do is Christmas presents) is ranked higher in a list than Eminem, Biggie and Tupac is a sad day for Hip Hop, that day is today.
September 19th, 2010 at 11:15 am
As much as I’ve teased TIm with MJ vs. Duran Duran, I think both MJ and the Beatles are great, and probably for different reasons, though I haven’t put much though into that part. Maybe after I listen to the ‘cast I can think of something…
September 19th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
I’ll take the rapists for $200, Alex.
Thanks for the concern about my engagement, but yes, we have known each other for a long time. And my tweets were only briefly private because I hadn’t told my parents yet!
September 20th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
I totally agree with MJ being second. He was a fantastic entertainer. There is no question that the Beatles belong at #1 on that list.
September 20th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
I stand alone with my MJ! So sad that everyone else is wrong 😉
September 21st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Andy: epic win with the dickenpox! And then later, a callback!
If only this episode could have been called Dickenpox.
September 23rd, 2010 at 11:56 am
Now that I’ve listened to the whole ‘cast and put some thought into it, here’s my take on The Beatles > Michael Jackson. Not that it matters… 🙂
I think Tim mentioned that the list was voted on by artists. Then it makes perfect sense that Beatles (henceforth “B”) would surpass MJ (henceforth, “MJ”). From an objective view, B had a broader range of muscial styles from which later artists could draw for inspiration and influence, from light pop to real rock. MJ on the other hand remaing heavily invested in pop. It suited him well, and he was great at it no doubt, but you don’t hear Ozzy saying how much MJ influenced him (age aside). Yet he can’t talk enough about B, despite the fact that their music is extremely different.
Also, B were very experimental, and tried different styles for their musicality, not their commercial viability. Not saying MJ only put out music that he expected would be commercially viable: That’s clearly not the case, as it was not, in fact, always commercially viable. But it ties into B’s ability to widely influence a more disparate set of artists than MJ could, since he mainly stayed in the disco/pop/hip hop genre.